new non low setup help

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I have finally decided to take my wagon into another direction. right now my 03 wrx wagon has kyb gr2 struts with prodrive springs, and a 20mm rear swaybar. Wheels are rota 17x7.5 with 225-45-17 rubber. The roads where I live are really bad and getting worse all the time. I am tired of constantly bashing around and watching for every pothole and frostheave like my life depends on it. On smooher fast roads the handling is pretty amazing, however, the only roads that are in good shape are not appropriate places to be fooling around, as they are in town or loaded with cops. The back roads are my home so my quest for the best bumpy, backroad, haulin' ass suspension setup is underway. Any and all feedback would be helpful. My bugdet is not huge but not limp dicked either. Coilovers are out. Rally guys take time to help me out please.

 
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If, by any chance, those GR2's fit onto my '96 OBS, I'll buy them off of you.

Wheels too - me wants me Rota's backzors. :happy3:

 
How many miles on your suspension? Trade even-Steven for my stock setup?
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I just did all my suspension last year, and stock isn't what I'm looking for, but for kicks what are you driving? This thread is about me getting a new suspension not everyone else getting cheap parts. :bootyshake: I will probably sell the springs and wheels once I am done and like my setup. :thumbsup:

 
Heh - 2007 stock WRX wagon...and for the record, I'm not looking for cheap parts.

I'ze looking for FREE parts
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Heh - 2007 stock WRX wagon...and for the record, I'm not looking for cheap parts.

I'ze looking for FREE parts
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:laughing4: that's good, I laughed so hard I farted. The free parts thing, not at your 07,

Your tophats are different and my springs wouldn't work unless you changed to 02-03 tophats.

 
maybe this will help. I was thinking JDM wagon wrx springs if the rate is higher than usdm, my gr2s, a 22mm rear bar and 22mm front bar, anti lift kit, and possibly some poly bushings. A set of good 16" rims or even a set of 15s that would clear my brakes. I still have my stock springs and could use them if I have to. The bigger bars would get rid of some body roll and hopefully not tighten up suspension too much and the pitching would be controlled by the anti lift on acceleration, but the dive on brakes would still remain. I just want wheel travel back and still retain neutral to oversteer handling characteristics. The suspension in stock form understeered too much for my liking. I can't seem to find a good site to find 15 and 16 inch rally wheels that clearly list prices. I like used parts. :wave:

 
OK.

First: Why no coilovers?

Second: Rally wheels: Teamilluminata.com get the team dynamics get the Pro Rally1. the pro race 1's are more fragile

Third: get something like an Azenis that will still have a stiff sidewall for a tire or your handling will still suck. and don't use gravel tires in the winter.

 
OK.

First: Why no coilovers?

second: Rally wheels: Teamilluminata.com get the team dynamics get the Pro Rally1. the pro race 1's are more fragile

Third: get something like an Azenis that will still have a stiff sidewall for a tire or your handling will still suck. and don't use gravel tires in the winter.
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I have yet to meet a set of coilovers that were livable on the street, and the prices are as much as the sti ra tranny I want. If you know of a set of reasonably priced, good daily driving coilovers please tell me. I am no coilover guru so if they do exist I would like to know.

wheels. thanks.

Tires will be just as important as teh suspension so thanks again.

 
OK.

First: Why no coilovers?

second: Rally wheels: Teamilluminata.com get the team dynamics get the Pro Rally1. the pro race 1's are more fragile

Third: get something like an Azenis that will still have a stiff sidewall for a tire or your handling will still suck. and don't use gravel tires in the winter.
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I have yet to meet a set of coilovers that were livable on the street, and the prices are as much as the sti ra tranny I want. If you know of a set of reasonably priced, good daily driving coilovers please tell me. I am no coilover guru so if they do exist I would like to know.

wheels. thanks.

Tires will be just as important as teh suspension so thanks again.
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If I were in your situation I would do the follwoing:

Koni inserts in the OEM shock bodies, with Coilover sleeves and pick your spring rates and lenghts. Then you have exactly what you want with a daily liveable ride.

Something like a 250 in/lb front and 200 in/lb rear will give you similar ride to the prodrives but you can adjust how tall the car sits.

 
This is the plan, for now. gr2 struts, stock springs, group n strut mounts, anti lift kit, front and rear bars, steering rack bushings, and stock wheels w/ good rubber. If the new setup suits me I will sell the prodrive springs and my rota wheels and buy some good rally wheels in either 15 or 16x7. Those team dynamics wheels are nice but used I would take what I could get.

whatdoyathink?

 
I would skip the group N mounts if you are going to stock springs. It will be so soft that you will not get any gains at that point.

I am working on a coilover setup using the OEM strut bodies to do exactly what you are looking to do. up in the winter down in the summer (when able to)

 
ok here goes, my ideas for spending YOUR $$$ :bootyshake:

JDM wagon pink sproings -- nice leetle upgrade, but not AX stupid bouncy, retain stock wheel travel which is what makes a subaru drive like a subaru on rough roads

AGX adj strutxoids--keep soft for DD duty, dial up for AX or rallyX days or adventures up north on squiggly dirt. GR-2s fine as is, tho.

bars as you spec, tho if you keep stock front bar and upsize the rear you will help make an understeering piggie more happy to wag his tail

keep the 16" wheels, or even go to 15s, stock size 16s or 195/65-15s --good tall rubber will do more to smooth out nassty maine non-smoothie roads than almost any hardware tweaks

 
Stiffening the sway bars removes the side to side independence of your suspension as well. If you're on crap roads all the time, imo, you should upgrade each corner how you like and go with stock sways.

Let the work and money you put into the strut/spring/coilover/whatever do it's job rather than handcuffing it to the other side of the car with a big ass swaybar. Independent suspension = traction on poor roads.

When the Colin McCrae No Fear X games car was at F1Dyno a couple years ago they had the craziest coilovers with remote reservoirs and everything I have ever seen... and yes, a stock rear sway bar.

 
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