2007 STI Limited at Stanley Subaru in great shape

The CAFE for 2020 was just rasied to 42 mpg.
Nuts isn't it! If the gas prices dont go back up to $5+ a gallon in 10 years the mandated requirements and what people want to drive will be very far apart. Maybe i should buy a bunch of STis and WRXs and mothball them
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Nuts isn't it! If the gas prices dont go back up to $5+ a gallon in 10 years the mandated requirements and what people want to drive will be very far apart. Maybe i should buy a bunch of STis and WRXs and mothball them
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If you had the money that`s not a bad idea.

 
Nuts isn't it! If the gas prices dont go back up to $5+ a gallon in 10 years the mandated requirements and what people want to drive will be very far apart. Maybe i should buy a bunch of STis and WRXs and mothball them
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Don't worry they will take care of that as well.

 
...so performance cars of the future will be smaller and lighter

look at maniac's 60s Pontiac muscle car, what was it--4000+ lbs, 400 hp, 10 mpg, and skeery on a twisty road

compare to your garden variety STI--500 lbs lighter, 'only' 300 hp, 20 mpg, and capable of out driving almost any car on any road anywhere

if a fuel mandate actually comes in (by no means a done deal yet) it will drive development of smaller lighter cars...hp to weight ratio is gonna go thru the roof. this is likely to be a Good Thing...let's say a carbon fiber tub awd subie wag that weights 2200 lbs, runs a 1.8 turbodiesel with 250 hp and 340 tq, and it gets 33 mpg??!!....ooh yeah bring it on.

 
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Unfortunately we also have government mandated crash standards too...so the cars wont get that light. This is why a yaris gets the same mileage as a corolla and almost the same as the camry.

 
Back to the original topic......I paid about 1k less then what they are asking for an 07 STI that had 36K on it, but that was a year ago, and there was a slightly better market. I still paid on the high end, but I wanted the car and I could afford it (kind of) so what the hell.
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...so performance cars of the future will be smaller and lighter

look at maniac's 60s Pontiac muscle car, what was it--4000+ lbs, 400 hp, 10 mpg, and skeery on a twisty road

compare to your garden variety STI--500 lbs lighter, 'only' 300 hp, 20 mpg, and capable of out driving almost any car on any road anywhere

if a fuel mandate actually comes in (by no means a done deal yet) it will drive development of smaller lighter cars...hp to weight ratio is gonna go thru the roof. this is likely to be a Good Thing...let's say a carbon fiber tub awd subie wag that weights 2200 lbs, runs a 1.8 turbodiesel with 250 hp and 340 tq, and it gets 33 mpg??!!....ooh yeah bring it on.
I believe in technology, my spec b is a much better all around car than my old ponco. I like getting 26 mpg instead of 13. But I would like to see in 10 years what would happen if your 2200 lb. subie ran into my 3500 lb. spec b.
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I would like to see in 10 years what would happen if your 2200 lb. subie ran into my 3500 lb. spec b.
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well, first that big ole Spec B would have to somehow chase down the 2200# waggie with monster tiny turbodiesel
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...heh, it'll get 40 mpg, sheesh you'd lose just stopping for fuel!

weight alone is not a reliable indicator of crashworthiness...witness which car would you have been in when Stixx's lady launched off that Major Pothole....the 60s Poncho or a much lighter LGT?

have you seen how the F1 guys whack 1700# cars into tire walls and armco at 185mph and shred carbon fiber bits all over monaco, then climb out of the smoking pile and helo off to a PR reception???? 10 years from now CF will be standard stuff, just like intercooled turbos were like unobtanium in the 1980s, and look at em now.

 
well, first that big ole Spec B would have to somehow chase down the 2200# waggie with monster tiny turbodiesel
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...heh, it'll get 40 mpg, sheesh you'd lose just stopping for fuel!
weight alone is not a reliable indicator of crashworthiness...witness which car would you have been in when Stixx's lady launched off that Major Pothole....the 60s Poncho or a much lighter LGT?

have you seen how the F1 guys whack 1700# cars into tire walls and armco at 185mph and shred carbon fiber bits all over monaco, then climb out of the smoking pile and helo off to a PR reception???? 10 years from now CF will be standard stuff, just like intercooled turbos were like unobtanium in the 1980s, and look at em now.
They better put in roll cages to protect your ass in that little car
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You won`t blow me away in 10 years I plan to be putting out 800 whp by then , that`s if I am not pushing up daisies by then:iam:

 
well, first that big ole Spec B would have to somehow chase down the 2200# waggie with monster tiny turbodiesel
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...heh, it'll get 40 mpg, sheesh you'd lose just stopping for fuel!
weight alone is not a reliable indicator of crashworthiness...witness which car would you have been in when Stixx's lady launched off that Major Pothole....the 60s Poncho or a much lighter LGT?

have you seen how the F1 guys whack 1700# cars into tire walls and armco at 185mph and shred carbon fiber bits all over monaco, then climb out of the smoking pile and helo off to a PR reception???? 10 years from now CF will be standard stuff, just like intercooled turbos were like unobtanium in the 1980s, and look at em now.
how about my sti taking a hyundai between the wheels at ~ 40on the drivers side and i didn't even get a headache? these cars are SAFE. i'd be in rough shape if it was the other way around

 
I deal with this on a daily basis. People want the car for KBB trade but want KBB retail for their trade. Remember KBB is a reference point, not a bible. KBB doesn't write checks or touch the vehicle. If you watch Barrett-Jackson, my 67 GTO clone is worth as much a real one did a few years ago. I disagree. Any vehicle is only worth what someone is willing to pay. A buyer can choose to disagree and wait.
 
"People" want the KBB trade value because that, at max, is likely what was paid for the car, other incentives potentially notwithstanding.

Dealerships love to reference KBB, and so do I- and I understand it quite well.

That STi is worth all the $$, to the "right" buyer, but if they pay high KBB for anything in this market, then they're suckers.

Like I said, I'd bet they only paid KBB "good" on it, low-balled.

RezP, maybe ask your pal what he got for it??

 
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