I was wondering what your (forum people) thoughts are for achieving more power out of an N/A motor? Before spending money on a turbo setup, what would be some good upgrades to squeeze out more power?
Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a boosted engine an swap it in? After looking around, a boosted Subie (with NO rust) runs for more than 6K. A boosted engine is about 4K.I wouldn't go turbo either. Selling it and buying a factory turbo car will save you $$$ and headache.
+1Not easy to build more power out of a Subie N/A motor. Essentially, the Subaru engineers did all that stuff already. OK so you can do cams, intake exhaust etc but that's serious coin for minimal gains with significant tradeoff in reduced long-term durability.
Far better to build suspension and tire package so that you don't need to slow down so much when road turns twisty.
Oh, and develop driver software control package, too.
Define "Seat time" please?+1
Boost and going fast is fun, but you can have just as much fun with na, just might not be the same kind of fun, capiche? You can have a big ass turbo, but if your car can't corner like a boss then the turbo will only help on the straights, and in my opinon, the fun is in the corners
As I'm sure Nigel would agree, if you're looking for performance, seat time is going to be the best thing for you. Unless you're looking to drag race, in that case you bought the wrong car.
Good old fashioned time behind the wheel. You know what they say, practice makes perfect. For instance, if you want to get good at driving/cornering on dirt, spending a day driving on dirt will do a lot more for you then say; a new intake.Define "Seat time" please?
Drag racing is boring, I agree with you on the corners! Which is why, I will be beefing up the suspension as well as being on the look out for more power. While cornering is wicked fun, I just need a little bit more power to drive with on a touge type of road. I don't really care for boost, but the car takes to long to respond and its boring. So I'd like to look into N/A options for more power but there's no real information pool for that type of direction.
Okay, I get that and believe me..i get a lot of "Seat Time".Good old fashioned time behind the wheel. You know what they say, practice makes perfect. For instance, if you want to get good at driving/cornering on dirt, spending a day driving on dirt will do a lot more for you then say; a new intake.
Noted.Swapping in a turbo motor into an na car isn't as easy as you think. Say you spend the 4g for a motor you'll still need the harness to merge it all/countless hours of labor to rip out the dash and install the stuff. Crossmember isn't the same so you swap the entire front frame or notch it for the up pipe and soooo on. It's almost easier and less stressful to buy a turbo car to begin with.
If your thinking about the 2.5rs N/A build that hit 300HP, then I've seen it and that cash flow is something that a lot of us wish we had.Someone had linked a thread for a crazy na build on Nabisco. Can't even remember how Much more was done beyond cams and injectors, but from what I recall it was huge money and not much gain