the Toyobaru...it's ALIVE!!!

[Mark]

Engines designed previously by Yamaha (Per wiki):

1967: Toyota 2000GT

1989: Ford Taurus SHO (V6)

1996: Ford Taurus SHO (V8)

2003: Various Toyota applications, Pontiac Vibe GT, Lotus Exige, Lotus Elise

So yeah...

 

[Nigel Prodrive]

article in recent Motor Trend cites Subaru as having very ambitious sales goals (circa +25% in next couple years) and the new joint venture sports model is expected to be a big part of that.

I just wonder how Subaru bringing a sporty RWD car out squares with its proven sales formula of being the "all-AWD Company."

 

[Chris]

article in recent Motor Trend cites Subaru as having very ambitious sales goals (circa +25% in next couple years) and the new joint venture sports model is expected to be a big part of that.

I just wonder how Subaru bringing a sporty RWD car out squares with its proven sales formula of being the "all-AWD Company."

It's kind of more of a toyota thing than a subaru.

But regardless, it will pick up subaru sales in places where subarus don't sell much. ie. states where it doesn't snow.

 

[drvsdwz]

but they still probably won't produce any more than what it already does with the sti's. Make them more rare so they can jack up the price.

 

[Nigel Prodrive]

the Toyobaru's mid $20k pricing is going to be much more in the "Hey! I can actually afford a new car now" league than $40k STIs.

classic marketing: increase the content, drop the price and bingo sell waaaay more units.

 

[Pedro]

article in recent Motor Trend cites Subaru as having very ambitious sales goals (circa +25% in next couple years) and the new joint venture sports model is expected to be a big part of that.

I just wonder how Subaru bringing a sporty RWD car out squares with its proven sales formula of being the "all-AWD Company."

Well they may be doing a very smart thing and merging the global brand image with the one that they send to the US. I for one would welcome this new RWD component of the brand as well as the many 2WD models that are available to other regions.

but they still probably won't produce any more than what it already does with the sti's. Make them more rare so they can jack up the price.

The STi isn't really rare. and the mid 20K price of this thing isn't going to make it unattainable. don't forget that the size of this platform is marginally larger than the current production Miata.

 

[Apollyon12]

Guess I got lucky!

Wait, are you trying to say that with your '08 wrx you didn't get screwed?

The black sheep of that generation? The '09's changed a heck of a lot, and for the better. If I had bought an '08 I would have been rip-POOP when the new ones came out.

 

[IBratmanI]

Wait, are you trying to say that with your '08 wrx you didn't get screwed?

The black sheep of that generation? The '09's changed a heck of a lot, and for the better. If I had bought an '08 I would have been rip-POOP when the new ones came out.

He has an STi

 

[Apollyon12]

I stand corrected. And without the ability to read.

 

[inski]

The most recent word from SNE is the Subaru ver. of this will start production mid term 2012.

 

[widowmaker]

The most recent word from SNE is the Subaru ver. of this will start production mid term 2012.

As a RWD?

 

[Pedro]

yes.

 

[Apollyon12]

We don't care when the production starts, we care when Evergreen is going to have one that we can test drive.

 

[widowmaker]

yes.

Dox that the Subaru release of this will be RWD, please. Haven't seen much about anything but the Toyota branded version.

 

[Pedro]

This^

 

[inski]

We can see the timing chain Impreza 2.0L with the filter on top. Same thing as the 2011 2.5L Foresters and 2012 2.0L Imprezas. But look! They finally switched the intake so it faces forward. Battery in a more weight friendly location. Strut tower braces (cheezy). Open wheel wells, yip, that's plastic in front of the strut towers. Power steering pump is either gone (electric) or moved down low. Looks like they made more room by switching the fuse box local and ABS. Looks like plenty of space in front and low for a turbo, just got to move a couple unnecessary things.

..and that stupid A.I.R. system.

All in all I like it. Nothing drastically different but everything is laid out better. Expect to see individual coils for each cyl. like the 2012 Impreza.

We're on the threshold of the best thing to come via Subaru EVAH!

Scion FR-S should be coming a little sooner than the BRZ, like late summer 2012 as a 2013 model

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2313/a-tech-look-under-the-scion-fr-s.aspx

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/toyota-gt-86-officially-revealed-2011-11-28

http://jalopnik.com/5863699/subaru-brz-the-movie?tag=subarubrz

starts at $24K http://jalopnik.com/5864550/subaru-brz-pricing-starts-at-24000?tag=subarubrz

Toyota http://jalopnik.com/5862774/toyota-gt-86-is-the-production-version-of-the-ft+86?tag=subarubrz

 

[Pedro]

me likey

 

[Nigel Prodrive]

yeah yeah yeah, so how's about some test drives??!!

OK...so the Ken Gushi dorifto vid gives me actual hope! seems like ample power and flat drifting attitude, not much wallowing.

Zero Understeer, yaaay!

 

[brighton]

30 mpg's to boot!

 

[inski]

I was told Emerson Toyota has one on their lot. I did not go over there to verify that.