How much camber is too much?
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akinaspeedstar
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a lot!
Evan
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you can go to napa and get 'crash bolts' as well, they're just like the stock ones but the ellipse is more dramatic so you can get even more camber ;D
inski
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I can only get around -1(-1.1) from the stock cam bolts. -2 would be nice for auto-x.
You can get more by using two cam bolts, one in the upper strut hole and one in the lower strut hole, or use crash bolts.
The cool thing about working at a dealership is that you can do a crazy alignment for the weekend, and put it back to stock on Monday so you dont eat tires. >
You can get more by using two cam bolts, one in the upper strut hole and one in the lower strut hole, or use crash bolts.
The cool thing about working at a dealership is that you can do a crazy alignment for the weekend, and put it back to stock on Monday so you dont eat tires. >
ruggedman
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Well i'm not insk, but it's wicked worth it. Give her max neg camber and run it! I tire wear from negative camber can be easily equalled out by taking a few hard corners. It's toe that really wears tires.
as with many things in life, camber is one of those things where "is some is good, more is not necessarlily better"
on the rally cars, we typically can get -2 degrees +/- at the back and up to -3 in front. more than this makes the car very darty when crossing uneven surfaces, such as the camber in a narrow road-- i.e., basically unusable for street driving. I'm back to -2 all around after trying a fair bit more. even at -2, the "knees-in" stance of the wheels is very noticeable, the car looks like an effin' circle-track racer sometimes.
using the notorious napa crash bolts, you may be able to get -2 up front, -1.5 at the back.
depending on your wheel/tire combo, any more than -1.5 at the back tents to produce rubbing probs between tire and spring perch on the strut. 7" wide wheels in 16" or 17" and 215 or 225 width gumballs don't leave much room. and when the rubbing happens, it can give you wicked bad snap oversteer :
which I discovered by stuffing the rally can en route to the alignment shop one time. :
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it also wrecked one of my new Michilin Pilot Alpin snows :- :- :- :-
on the rally cars, we typically can get -2 degrees +/- at the back and up to -3 in front. more than this makes the car very darty when crossing uneven surfaces, such as the camber in a narrow road-- i.e., basically unusable for street driving. I'm back to -2 all around after trying a fair bit more. even at -2, the "knees-in" stance of the wheels is very noticeable, the car looks like an effin' circle-track racer sometimes.
using the notorious napa crash bolts, you may be able to get -2 up front, -1.5 at the back.
depending on your wheel/tire combo, any more than -1.5 at the back tents to produce rubbing probs between tire and spring perch on the strut. 7" wide wheels in 16" or 17" and 215 or 225 width gumballs don't leave much room. and when the rubbing happens, it can give you wicked bad snap oversteer :
Pedro
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I am running -1.7 front and -2.4 rear on the miata, it is quite twitchy, but that also comes from the ubsurd amount of castor. but it makes a fun drive with some ridiculous turn in.
but the miata is light and dosen't wear tires very much.
but the miata is light and dosen't wear tires very much.
I wasn't planning on touching the rear just to make it easier, but should I? The NAPA bolts list +/- 1 3/4 on front, +/- 1 1/4 in the rear. I'm gonna try to get as close to Nigels set-up as I can. I'm running 17x7.5 48ET wheels with 225/45R17 RE070's. I'll watch for any rubbish on the rear struts. Saturday morning is gonna be fun!
I just re-called NAPA and got someone else. He showed rear bolts good for 1 3/4. Good to go....
I just re-called NAPA and got someone else. He showed rear bolts good for 1 3/4. Good to go....
my street/recce wagoon gave me -1.5/-1.25 at the back just on stock struts n bolts. (a big prybar helped). With 225/50-16 PZero Neros on 16x7 RS 6-spokes, there ain't much room between the shoulder and the strut. Enough, but barely, "thin finger" would describe it pretty well.
hah, drove the wag today...after a couple weeks in the Miata, the WRX felt like a truck.
Well, sorta truck, except with 18 lbs boost >
the Otter needs a turbo.
hah, drove the wag today...after a couple weeks in the Miata, the WRX felt like a truck.
the Otter needs a turbo.
ruggedman
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Did you at least dress up like a doctor's wife? >